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Read Ender's Game, Chapters 3 and 4, and respond to these questions:
Chapter 3, 4:
1) What games are mentioned in Chapters 3 and 4? What games are being played in Chapters 3 and 4? What is the goal? What are the stakes? What is the scope?
2) Are games a suitable way of teaching and instruction? Are games the best way to teach and instruct? Should games be serious? Should they be fun? At what point is a game not a game?
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1. mostly mind games. the goal is to convince ender to undertake the military training (or antagonize him or someone else). the stakes may be the entire human race, or at the very least one boy's life.
ReplyDelete2. certainly they're a good means of instruction. often they're competitive, and that increases drive to excel. the best way though? that's probably too high a topic for me to comment on, so I'll leave that to psych students and anthropologists. they CAN be serious, when the subject matter is dour, the consequences dire, or the stakes high. the nature of a game is to be fun though. a game stops being a game when the gameplay is forced or unsatisfying. then it becomes a chore.
1.the games played in chapters 3 and 4 are all between graff and ender as well as enders family. graf plays a manipulating mind game as he tries to convince ender to go with him to battle school. as well as he plays a game of asserting his own dominating air in the room by telling enders mom that they already signed over rights to ender.
ReplyDelete2. games are often a very suitable way to teach. it may not always be the best way to teach seeing as everyone learns in a similar yet different manner. the atmosphere of a game would entirly depend on the circumstance the game is being played in. if we sit down to play a game with freinds, we'll expect to have fun anf the mood might not be too serious. while if we're sitting down to a game tournament as a contestant it may be a little more serious.for something to be a game i think it implies an attainable goal. once a goal becomes impossible to reach its no longer a game. at least not a fair onne that anyone would willing partake in.
1. There aren't any obvious games mentioned in chapters 3 and 4, but Graff plays a game with
ReplyDeleteEnder in which he is trying to convince him to come to the school with him in conversation, using either the truth or lies. The boy behind Ender on the shuttle plays a game similar to the one Stilson played by hitting Ender on the head to get a rise out of him.
2. Games can be a useful tool for teaching and instruction by getting the learner more interested and involved, but may become just a challenge to overcome and distract from the knowledge. The results would differ from person to person. A game's being serious or fun depends on its intent and either are fine. As long as they have a goal and a set of rules to achieve it, it will be a game.
1) There aren’t really any concrete games mentioned, though it seems that there was a game between the bullies on the ship and Ender. It was quite similar to the school fight, in which Ender was outnumbered and was still able to twist the game to his own. The kids were jealous so the goal was to possibly scare Ender, since it seems that he was favored by the Colonel.
ReplyDelete2) Sure I think so. Games are always the best way to learn, not only are you enjoying the game and having fun, but you’re also learning valuable information. I think games are the best way, they make learning enjoyable and keep you more focused on it. If you learn just by the boring talking way, people space out and go into their own world. So learning through games really gets your brain going, especially when its on that keeps you on your toes. I completely agree that games should be fun, without the fun what’s the point in the game? There has to be a level of seriousness to it too, a good balance—if its too fun then the player will get too deep into the fun aspect of it and all the knowledge that they learn will go right through them. A game isn’t a game when there is nothing to obtain. There has to be a reason why you’re playing a game, it needs rules, goals and instructions. Even if its something super simple like, Pong.
Chapter 3, 4:
ReplyDelete1) What games are mentioned in Chapters 3 and 4? What games are being played in Chapters 3 and 4? What is the goal? What are the stakes? What is the scope?Chapters 3 and 4 mention no straight-forward games. The only real games being played are real-life, situational logical analysis games where words and actions are strategically mapped and executed to achieve very specific desired results. This is evident both in Graff's recruitment method in convincing Ender to join and in his later tactics when bringing Ender onto the shuttle. Similarly, Ender is the one being tested by Graff's "game" and has to act in the optimal way so as to avoid damages himself and ensure that further damages to his physical person are minimized. Thus, the goal is a sort of strategic survival. The stakes have the potential to be life and death, but more tamely reflect the possibilities of success or failure in the academy. The scope of the game as yet is indefinite, since it starts now but has no clear ending.
2) Are games a suitable way of teaching and instruction? Are games the best way to teach and instruct? Should games be serious? Should they be fun? At what point is a game not a game?Games are often very suitable approaches to instruction and teaching. Playing a game gets the learner involved and often produce positive experiences and memories to reinforce the lesson(s) learned. They are not always the best way to teach because while they positively reinforce lessons, they may also carry with them the attitude that the material is just a game and the learner may very well treat the material with less seriousness than it deserves. All games should be fun to at least a small extent - otherwise no one would truly opt to play one. There are exceptions, however. Usually in the form of determination, training, and challenge games, where the playerers do not necessarily enjoy themselves, but continue playing for the greater goal of improving at something.
1. There were no games mentioned in particular. However there were several mind games with the goal of recruiting in chapter three and with the goal of isolating and convincing Ender that he has to gain the respect of the other boys.
ReplyDelete2. Games are a suitable way of teaching. Usually it's the best way because sometimes a child playing a game may not realize that they are learning and therefore enjoy it more and get more out of it. Games can be serious but they don't have to be and even if they were it doesn't mean that they can't be fun. It really depends on the person playing it. It's hard to say when a game is not a game. For instance, a game that starts off innocently and turns violent and dangerous can still be considered a game. It doesn't stop being a game when it isn't fun anymore.
1- In both chapters Graff's goal with his game is to find out if Ender is the one he's looking for. He does this by seeing what Ender does in his actions. Fisrt one was the bully at school and the second was when he made Ender out to be the best.
ReplyDelete2-Games can certainly be a good way to teaching fro certain. I think it's a good way to show what an outcome for a certain situation might be but at the same i think that's the main reason why it may not be the best way to instruct. Games are usually meant for entertainment so in some way they need to be fun. but again training simulations can be considered games and those need to be taken seriously so it come down to what type of game it is. Like I said with a game like a combat sim or something that may involve real life, it's technically a game but at the same time i think its at that point where it stop truly being a game.
1.] While there were not any games that could be mentioned as such, there were the "games" that Graff is playing with Ender is isolating him and making the other children believe that he is favored. It could be argued that the bullies on the ship were also playing a game with Ender, testing him and teasing him.
ReplyDelete2.] I believe games are definitely a good way to teach. One might not even realize they were learning while playing a game. It also serves to keep one's interest focused. Games might not be the best way- it depends on the person. Some people may learn better than others in such a situation [while excited and energized, which, assuming, play causes- whereas others may prefer a calmer atmosphere and a more studious setup]. Also, one's mind could possibly be more open while relaxed, and more readily accepting of information. I believe the versatility of games allows for them to be serious and fun, oftentimes simultaneously. Perhaps a game is no longer a game when there is no longer a goal. When there's nothing to strive for, and there's no reason to be "playing", it's likely that it has never been a game at all.
1. A few minor games are mentioned in Chapters 3 and 4. When Graff is trying to convince Ender to come with him, he mentions the only games that will be played are war games or battle games. Graff makes it clear that these games are important, and the stakes are high, as they represent how high you could potentially climb the military leader. The goal is to achieve victory against your peers, as a method of training to perhaps later achieve victory against a more real foe. Indeed, these War games could determine future military leader's tactical competency, so the scope of these games is large, as the training done in these games could represent the line between victory and loss as a human race.
ReplyDeleteIt is also mentioned that when the boys are aboard the ship, they begin joking and playing around on their seats. I can imagine the goal of this to be to simply relieve the stress of the situation, or let out excess energy, but also start making early relationships with the peers.
Another game that is mentioned is when Graff is playing 'gravity games' as he flips, and climbs, all in Zero gravity. Ender is making a game of it by imagining Graff in different positions, as if the floor were the ceiling, the walls the floor, etc. The hidden purpose of this game, which only Ender seemed to pick up on, was to see if the new recruits would grasp that in a zero-gravity location, direction is only what you perceive it to be.
Graff continued to play mind-games of sorts with the new recruits, singling Ender out as a great mind, leading the other recruits to hate him. The goal of this game was to make ender strive even further to excellence, because even though his peers will hate them if he has favor with Graff, they will hate him and tease him more if he does not live up to what Graff says.
2. I believe games can be excellent teaching tools, as games allow you to apply things you've learned in a simulated-situation, or just practice your skills. The more practice, the more what you've learned can sink in. That said,I don't think Games are the best way to teach, though teaching would not work near as well without some form of games, games as a learning tool would not work near as well without some form of straight-forward instruction or post-game reflections.
Games can be both serious and fun, depending on the goals and the stakes. I think even the most serious of games have the capability of being fun, and even the most fun of games have the capability to be fun, it's wholly dependent on the player's reaction, and their personal tastes. Serious games can serve many purposes, such as training, learning tools, or intellectual excercise, but fun games can have their positive and negative effects on the player that are very serious as well. Should a game be serious, or fun? I believe a game should be both, or at least have the possibility of being both. A simple game of 'go-fish' may seem like just fun, but between bitter rivals or perhaps with money on the line, it could become very serious. And in a serious game, such as a war game, the sense of accomplishment and pride may lead to you having fun, even if you are taking it very seriously.
I think a game is always a game as long as it remains defined as such. As long as it still has it's goals, and some sort of player, it remains a game. I don't believe any game must remain fun 100% of the time to still be a game, though I do think in general to be considered a game, it probably should be entertaining for at least one player.
1) There were two main games that I picked up on in chapters 3 and 4. Chapter 3 begins with the mysterious conversation we picked up on in the first two chapters. The voices speak of Ender and his sister and how they are going to persuade and if necessary trick Ender into leave his sister and come with "them". To me this was a game because it foreshadows the mind games being played between Graft and Ender and hits to the reader that Ender is part of something (a game?) much bigger than himself.
ReplyDeleteThe other game is the psychological game that Graft plays with Ender trying to subliminally convince him to come with him. By telling Ender that he has been a burden and a huge trouble to his family. Hoping that Ender will recognize his families suffering on his behalf (since he is a third) and decide to redeem his name.
War games are also mentioned. The stakes in this one are perhaps the highest since humanities future may one day again be in the hands of a capable general should "the buggers" ever attack again.
2) To me games are a completely suitable way of teaching and instruction. When you think of "teaching and instruction" you think about rigid lessons, lectures and boring teaches. Games provide a creative outlet that remains fun and is also provides a much more enjoyable way to learn than just one person activly participating and the others just listening.
I don't know that I feel like games are the best way to learn. Formal instruction is sometimes needed and games should be used as a reinforcement... not to teach everything.
Games, especially a game that aims to teach and instruct someone, should be fun; if not its doubtful anyone would want to play or learn.
A game ceases to become a game when players are no longer actively participating in it.
the name of the game they play is flotillas and admirals of the fleet.
ReplyDeletethe goal is to meet new people and be come a better soild.and the stakes were the trails and training.
ReplyDeletegame can be also use as a way to teach kids,children and adults because it makes the person think in different ways and see things differently
ReplyDeleteif a teacher uses fun games to teach then yes.the teacher take his or her methods serious and fun so very one else learn and it would be fun.
ReplyDeleteEnder in the free play part of the chapter. Ender,get to know his real self when he is face with the traformation of a child.and he gets to see his weakes,but in the end he still over comes them.the designer who made the game keepet in mind to be the best you must train the mind aswell as the body with out the mental part of the training then Ender is just half of a soldier
ReplyDeleteEnder how negative things from Bonzo teachings.also the way he point in life.Ender keeps his cold also and his head into the game no matter what.
ReplyDeleteSalamander has and army but with one big problem they have two diffrent mind set so its a big problem in this chapter.
ReplyDeletewhile reading this chapter i thought about the game that i have played in the pass.adn i think is god some times to make thing unfair so the player can better them self.if game are made easy then the player has not leanrd anything and all there doing is weassing there time it mayube hard some times to over come levels but in the end you always learnd some more about the game and from your self.
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