(Begins May 20 - Ends May 27)
Read Ender's Game, Chapters 9 and 10, and respond to these questions:
Chapter 9
“The mind game is a relationship between the child and the computer. Together they create stories. The stories are true, in the sense that they reflect the reality of the child's life. That's all I know” (Card, 121)
1) What game is this quote referring to? What do you think of this kind of game? Would you want to play?
2) While Ender learns the ropes of Battle school, Peter and Valentine Wiggen have begun a game of their own. What is the nature of this game? What is the goal? The rules? Who designed this game, and who is playing? What are the game pieces?
Chapter 10
1) In this chapter, what sort of games does Ender use to teach? What is his role in these games?
2)Would you want Ender for a teacher? Why or why not?
3)If you were a teacher, would you want to be like Ender? Why or why not? Would you use his games? What kind of games would you use, in his position?
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Chapter 9
ReplyDelete“The mind game is a relationship between the child and the computer. Together they create stories. The stories are true, in the sense that they reflect the reality of the child's life. That's all I know” (Card, 121)
1) What game is this quote referring to? What do you think of this kind of game? Would you want to play?The “game” referred to in this quote is the “Free Play” game system, specifically the Giant to End of the World phases. I think this kind of game is incredibly innovative, were it to exist in our world, and very appropriate for the type of studying and development they hope to achieve through using the program. I think I would enjoy playing this game immensely, because I could not only challenge myself, but I could also experiment with different mind-sets and personalities that I could craft for myself and see which ones work out best in certain situations and give myself that many more options for the real situations that they pertain to.
2) While Ender learns the ropes of Battle school, Peter and Valentine Wiggen have begun a game of their own. What is the nature of this game? What is the goal? The rules? Who designed this game, and who is playing? What are the game pieces?Peter and Valentine’s game is a political challenge. They are playing a game of deception and manipulation with a big part of the world with the goal of controlling everyone’s collective opinion to direct them all towards a final peace. The rules are to successfully pass off as adults, create opposing factions, and ultimately make a difference just by the effect of their combined “net” voices. In a sense, Valentine and Peter designed the game, but it was more of a branch-off of the already extant political game that was put in place by generations of adults before them. As far as game pieces are concerned, I would have to say that the “net” messages and articles are the actual playing pieces, while Valentine and Peter are the major players. May of the readers also act as pieces, pawns in a sense, and are strategically moved to different sides and different extremes as determined by Valentine and Peter’s orchestrations. There are a few other players, but we do not know them personally like we do Peter and Valentine.
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1) In this chapter, what sort of games does Ender use to teach? What is his role in these games?Ender utilizes many of the same games that Graff used on him when Ender first arrived. Most of these games are psychological, most notably that of singling out the individual with the most promise and challenging him every step of the way. Ender also uses many straight-forward games that are based on following an example and quick memorization. He is the teacher and instructor in these games, but is still learning a lot, specifically, he is beginning to understand what Graff did to him and why it was so important for him to endure such hardship and loneliness.
2)Would you want Ender for a teacher? Why or why not?I think Ender is an excellent, if difficult, teacher. He’s highly effective and knows almost exactly what he is doing. He uses logical, straight-forward teaching methods most of the time, which have always worked for me, and I have a logical enough mind to follow along with most of his plans (though whether or not I had such facilities when I was 10 is questionable). My only issue would be the side of me that is rebellious and independent. I don’t do well in groups and loathe being in leadership roles, even though I’ve been told I’m a good leader and a role model of sorts.
3)If you were a teacher, would you want to be like Ender? Why or why not? Would you use his games? What kind of games would you use, in his position?I think, if I were a teacher, being like Ender would be a little too harsh. I certainly wouldn’t be teaching soldiers, and so my methods would not need to be as harsh and strict as his by any means. I would, however, think to use a lot of the same techniques or “games” to push my students to excel and to better help myself understand where my students need particular work.
Chapter 9
ReplyDelete1. The fantasy game Ender plays at his desk. It's actually really scary. I would want to play to be able to look at my life as such, but I think I'd be too scared to face it.
2. It's a game to influence the masses into taking them seriously. The goal is pretty much to control the world. They can't let anyone find out they're children and that they're working together. Peter designed it and is playing with Valentine. The pieces are their writings.
Ch 10
1. He uses the same "games" played on him when he was just starting. He doesn't know why he's using them but probably knows that deep down they were effective in teaching him to be a perfect soldier.
2. I don't mind when teacher's are mean or strict as long as they're good teachers, so yes I probably would.
3. I myself could not be a teacher like Ender. I would rather be liked than have authority. However, I would command respect, just not as harshly. Breaking the spirits of children isn't really all that effective.
9-1 the game being referred to is the game on the students desks. the free play game. i personally think this would be a great game. i would absolutley love to play. however i think also that games like this would have to have strong warnings. somepeople just cant handle their own truths.
ReplyDelete9-2 peter and valentine are playing a game on the web. a political game. in this game peter and valentine hide their identities as children and play the roles of two adults with different views on polictial topics. peter thought up this game and convinced valentine to play along. the point is to entirley decieve the people they chat with and to gain some sort of political power as children.
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to teach, ender uses similar moves played against him by graff. although ender himself hated it i think he's come to understand the neccessity of being hard on his troop by isolating certain individuals who show promise and by overall excluding himself as a freind. ender who was originally forced into isolation by graf now uses that isolation to boost his appearence as leader.
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i think ender is a very quick learner as well as he is compassionate and overall very kind. he is also a great worker and smart soldier. i would definently love to hae him as a teacher.
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if i was a teacher i would hope to have some of enders qualities as a teacher. he is very responsive to the needs of his "students" and only does what it best for overall advancment. if i were a teacher teaching soldiers i would hope to do just as ender does. however a teaher in other cases probably doesnt have to be so hard.
Chapter 9
ReplyDelete1) The 'free play' game the students can play on the desk, the one where ender encountered the giant, wolves, end of the world, etc. The game is very open ended, and as the name suggests 'free' but it's true purpose is to play as a puzzle, and a type of mindgame. The mindgame aspect could be used to both survey how a player reacts to certain situations, and also attempt to change the way the player thinks in a certain situation. I love the idea of freeplay, and puzzles. It sounds fascinating, engaging, and relaxing, if not at one of the harder parts. regardless, I would not like to play this game, because I wouldn't want it tricking my mind, and I wouldn't like the especially stressful periods during the harder puzzles in the game.
2) Peter and Valentine enter into a political game of sorts. Using their vast intelligence and knowledge of the world and it's events, they're able to pose as adults and put out differing views on political matters. the goal of their game is to guide people into a different opinion. Valentine and peter must be sure however not to expose their goal or identities, or their plan is forfeit.
Chapter 10
1) in this chapter ender becomes a commander of his own group, Dragon. Ender uses some formal drilling practices as a way of teaches his team, but also utilizes a lot of complex mindgames. Ender treats a smaller, yet excellent student, in a way that causes all the other boys to hate him. Ender almost resents himself for it, because that is how he had been treated. He is treating his team as he was treated by Graff when he was still a launchie, and the team leaders later on. His role is to seem intimidating and commanding to his team, so they take him seriously as a commander, and also only selectively punish or reinforce his team in a way that will mold their thinking to his plan.
2)Ender knows what needs to be taught for a team to succeed, and knows how to do it. He may be harsh at times, but I feel the way he designs his practices is efficent, and his team learns a lot, so I would want a teacher like that. However, like with the free play, I don't appreciate the mind games, and the subsequent mind control. So, Ender would be a good teacher if he kept his psychological warfare on the students to a minimum.
3)I feel as a teacher I would be somewhat like Ender. Strict, efficent, but not afraid to crack a joke - gain the student's respect, and comfort. However, I would not utilize mind games, at least not in the way Ender does. I would prefer to teach the students as a whole, and as equals, than single any of them out. I feel the students deserve respect enough for me to treat them as equals, and to not intentionally mess with them on a pyschological level. I would use games as a way of training, to perhaps recite or practice whatever is being learned. Games could be a good tool for students to become comfortable with me as an instructor, and also comfortable with eachother, and enhance their capabilities for teamwork.
1-1. The quote is referring the game with the Giant's Drink that Ender plays during "Free Play." It would be fun to come up with the stories that reflect personal experiences. I'd only want to play if the game made things more intense or more fantastical.
ReplyDelete1-2. Peter and Valentine set out to gain political influences in the world. Their goal is to get into the major political forums, grow their influence, and eventually control the world. The rules are to do so without having their true identities revealed. Peter designed the game and he and Valentine are playing. The game pieces are the people they talk to in the forums.
2-1. Ender makes the other boys understand that they don't know anything about combat by telling them so while showing them what he has learned to be useful. He also praises Bean for figuring out the right answers before the others, which is isolating him they way Graff did to Ender.
2-2. Sure, he presents a problem then gives a chance to solve it, if it doesn't get solved he explains what needs to be done.
2-3. Sure, he's a badass. I'd probably teach in a similar manner, but I would also have them put the methods to use and reinforce them when problems arise.
1.] The game spoken of in the quote is the free play game played on the desk system. I find that kind of game absolutely fascinating, personally, as it, and the decisions made, seem to reflect the depest parts of the plyer's psyche and the choices mae reveal the deep thought-processes needed in order to play the game successfully. I absolutely would like to play it, as it seems to require an out-of-the-box mindset, and especially because I am fond of psychology and how the game seems to tie in to that subject.
ReplyDelete2.] The game they are playing is a dangerous one, and very society-orented. They are lying and observing to achieve their means, which is to become important, qualified, and sought-after individuals in the news and politics so they can manipulate the government. They are striving to work their way up the social ladder, anonymously. They work together at opposing ends to achieve their goal. The rules are not to get caught, and to cover their trails and every footprint they could possibly leave behind. Peter designed the game [with the help of Valentine in a few ways], but Peter seems to be the only one truly playing it, considering even though he allows Valentine the freedom to write her own articles, he tells her what to do, how to change it, when to do it, and where. I believe at first Valentine thought she had more freedom than she actually did, but slowly became aware of the fact over time that she truly was just a pawn at Peter's command. The games pieces are their intel, articles, the net, and their desks.
1.] Ender became like Graff in a few ways, singling-out an individual to make him stronger and challenge him. He also understands what the hardship caused him and how it strengthened him, and uses this technique. While teaching, he is also learning, however, and thus this makes him an ideal tacher because he is not stuck on immovable and unvariable tactics that don't allow for any real time evolution in combat. His role in the games is to teach and also to learn.
2.] I would love to have Ender as a teacher. he is patient and smart and has much to offer. As much as I dislike group work, I think that if everyone followed Ender's teaching, I think it would be successful, despite how hard we may be driven by Ender's standards. The way he teaches almost makes me believe that I would want to work my very hardest simply to become as coul as HE believed I could be.
3.] I do think I would want to be like Ender, especially because I would want to be more patient and more thoughtful in regards to my teaching techniques- I would never want to be rigid and unwilling to learn how I also could become better. I think I would definitely use his teaching style and his games, because they are proven to be effective. I'd have to be literally put into his position, though, to really say whether or not I would change it up much to suit me.
ch9
ReplyDelete1- They're referring to the free play that Ender does. It would be an interesting thing to play it being that its reflecting off my mind. In a way it could be a scary experience to know what your deeper thoughts have to offer.
2-Peter seems to realize that him and Val are intelligent for theyre age and that they can manipulate people in their own ways. Peter wants to use his power of manipulation to get people to think that they are actually adults and listen to their intelligent debates to keep the world together.
Ch10
1- he starts using the same methods that were used on him when he started
2- Ender seems to know whats going on and how to work the system so i think he would make a great teacher
3- Ender seems tough but fair but i think it makes him a good teacher. I think I would be the same way. Be tough because you need to get their attention but not too much so they hate you.
Chapter 9
ReplyDelete1. The quote is referring to the “Free Play” game. I love the idea of this type of game play however at the same time I fear the dark sides of the human psyche this game could bring out. It could be a little too intense. But overall I think it’s amazing and would love to play.
2. Peter and Valentine have entered into a very serious game. Their eventual goal is to take over the world. Using Peter’s masterful skill at manipulation and playing peoples fears and Valentine’s intelligence and ample manipulation skills of their own they start to use the nets to communicate political ideas and spread their ideas. Peter has thought up this game and recruits Valentine for her help. The game pieces are humans/humanity.
Chapter 10
1. Ender uses the same type of tactics that Graff used on him. Psychological and mind games and also the “picking on” game as Ender discovers with his recruit Bean. He realizes that this isolation and picking on is the same tactic Graff used and begins to understand how it has made his stronger.
Enders role in this game is disciplinary and commander.
2. Ender would make a good teacher because he is able to think beyond the normal and see things from the abstract perspective but also understand the subtleties and meanings for his and others actions.
Also Ender has been through the exact same things that his students are going through so in that respect he knows what works and what does not. I think judging from the bad experiences and psychological treatment he went through that he will not be as harsh or degrading.
3. If I were a teacher I don’t think that I would be like Ender. However, I think circumstances are completely different. We are in a normal classroom under normal settings. We are not training for the next “bugger” attack on humanity that could come at any time and obliterate our entire species.
I think humor, fun and interactivity are much more effective in our types of classrooms than any type of psychological mind game would be. In today’s environment you would probably get fired or reprimanded for acting like Ender.
I however I was in his position I think I would take all the same steps as he. Strict, harsh and to the point.
Chapter 9
ReplyDelete“The mind game is a relationship between the child and the computer. Together they create stories. The stories are true, in the sense that they reflect the reality of the child's life. That's all I know” (Card, 121)
1) What game is this quote referring to? What do you think of this kind of game? Would you want to play?
I think that the quote is referring to the game that Ender plays “free play.” I think this game is pretty mind twisting, but in a way fun. I wouldn’t mind playing this game, it would totally confuse me and I wouldn’t be very violent in the game. Well much, I’m not sure, I think I would be more “lost” in the world then fight and try to figure out puzzles.
2) While Ender learns the ropes of Battle school, Peter and Valentine Wiggen have begun a game of their own. What is the nature of this game? What is the goal? The rules? Who designed this game, and who is playing? What are the game pieces?
To manipulate the minds of the adults, getting them to do what they want, or getting what they want. The goal, to secretly influence the minds of adults and the rules are to hide their true identity, remain low. Peter is the evil mind behind the game, with the help of Valentine.
Chapter 10
1) In this chapter, what sort of games does Ender use to teach? What is his role in these games?
The same “game” that Graff used on him when Ender first entered. The twisted game of building the child with the most potential---into a better soldier. He is the commander of the Dragon Army; he teaches them how to use the battle room properly with speed and precision.
2) Would you want Ender for a teacher? Why or why not?
I wouldn’t mind Ender becoming my teacher, I think he has a good grasp of what it means to be a commander, even though he might not think so. It is true that you have to give your team some harsh love in order for them to become better soldiers; hugs and kisses don’t work.
3) If you were a teacher, would you want to be like Ender? Why or why not? Would you use his games? What kind of games would you use, in his position?
It would honestly be hard for me to be like Ender, I would feel bad giving the tough love to the children, but I’m sure I wouldn’t mind if I gave it a shot and got better at it; maybe. I don’t know if I would use his games or not, really the idea of pointing out one person just to make them stronger…I dont know how I would feel about that. I would be constantly thinking about if they are ok or not because they would be getting picked on by everyone.
1 - it relates to the freeplay game. sounds a lot like Dungeons and Dragons, though, too. I love games like that.
ReplyDelete2 - peter and valentine started trying to influence the world's intellectual circles and the masses through postings on the net. peter designed it, he and valentine play it, the pieces are the minds they manipulate.
3 - ender uses the same mind games that were used on him to challenge his new subordinates. he also uses guessing games, watch-&-learns, and a few other techniques to get through to his students, challenging them at every step.
4 - part of me thinks learning from ender would be bad-ass. I'd love to learn some of the things he knows. I think I could even swallow my pride and allow a 10-year-old kid to tell me what to do. on the other hand, it'd depend on what he was teaching, I guess.
5 - be like ender as a teacher? maybe in a certain capacity, but he's got a bit too much military dogma instilled in him for my tastes. I'd like to be challenging to and respected by my students, I'd probably be quitee a bit more easy-going than him... but then, my curriculum probably wouldn't be determining the fate of mankind...
Ender plays a game in hes computer about his life.that to me is freeky but cool at the same time because if your able to play your life like a game you may know what happen befor it happes and you wont do the things you did worng again in the begging
ReplyDeletethe thought of manipulating people minds is what comes to my mind when i readed chapter 9 I like the idea of controling people if i had that power.manythings i would have if i was to do that
ReplyDeleteValentine and Peter designed the game.with the idea in mind of controling every one they can.and for pieces of the game they use a computer messages back and forward.
ReplyDeleteEnder is teaching in this chapter and he is teaching the new kids the same thing they thout him way back in the begging so in a way some time people do pass on there teaching to other just like they learnd it
ReplyDeleteWould I want Ender for a teacher? i guess maybe because he has learnd thing that other people has not and he dose not look at the world the same way as every one else dose hhe has he own mind set of if i was to chouse Ender for a teach yeah any time.
ReplyDeleteIf you were a teacher, would you want to be like Ender? i say yes because that means i would be a good teacher and the class can learnd from me,me from them the teacher is also leardning and the game he use to teach is just fine so if i had to chouse yeah ill pick his game to teach.
ReplyDeletei like alot chapter 11 because there masters made the game unfair the Ender and the team but is not about beging fair is about learnd how to handle thing where they are hard and streesfull.the masters gave them leves after leves trying to make them go faster in there game but if you look at it this way they got better and better and faster and faster so not alwys is it unfair to be fair just because is hard but is to make you a bettrer person in the end.
ReplyDeletein this part of the chapter 11 the concern of Ender is the bugger he has a hard time dealing with them so he gose back to the basic of the other games and trys to see if he can learnd new moves from his past training
ReplyDeletewhy shoude Bean be in a team well to my understanding bean is as good as Ender and some of the other soldier.his a quick thinker and moves fast of yeah i would love to have bean on my team if i had to pick.
ReplyDeletein chapter 12 i have already learnd to expect the unexpect because thats how real life is in every way just when you think everything is ok something happens thats what the teacher want it to Ender.In a bad situation Ender has his skills to depent on.
ReplyDeletewin is good in a game but some time is not all about win because losing can all so help you to win at times I see it this way the more you lose the more you learnd about your self and other so in a way losing is wining.why is win part of a game well thats why you fight real hard to win and see what have the person can get.
ReplyDeletechapter 13/the war bettew buggers and human is because of there lack of under standing. buggers have no clue how to talk to humans so there cant be any peace amoun them.and Ender only knows one thing how to Survive so yeah his going to keeep fighting them.
ReplyDeleteEnder get a new way of training but in 3d i love that i wish we would have game like that today.and the control it just like everything in life its only a matter of time for him to get use to them.
ReplyDeletethe new teacher is Mazers his much more exprens Ender and he has ben in war so he pushes Ender harder becasue he knows how it is out there in the real batter fiel.
ReplyDeleteEnder book is pretty good for what it is.and for a name i would have gone with war and space.
ReplyDeletethe game in chapter 15.i say is Ender and the queen bugger trying to talk to each other as the game gose on.
ReplyDeleteEnder and the queen bugger understand each other
ReplyDeleteand know what the war has done to them and to my understanding there trying to talk to each other and live in peace.
that the winner fought harder and better to over come whatever he needed and the loser did not.what is a enemy a person or a object that stands in your way of your goal.
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